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General => Metadata => Topic started by: obetz on April 10, 2019, 05:01:13 AM

Title: metadataworkinggroup dissolved?
Post by: obetz on April 10, 2019, 05:01:13 AM
Hi,

does anybody know what happened top http://www.metadataworkinggroup.com/ ?

Oliver
Title: Re: metadataworkinggroup dissolved?
Post by: Phil Harvey on April 10, 2019, 07:07:05 AM
First of all, it was .org, not .com

But the .org site site is down now.  I haven't heard that they have dissolved, so I'm hoping it is just a temporary outage.

- Phil
Title: Re: metadataworkinggroup dissolved?
Post by: obetz on April 10, 2019, 07:47:03 AM
Hi Phil,

Quote from: Phil Harvey on April 10, 2019, 07:07:05 AM
First of all, it was .org, not .com

IIRC, both were used, even mwg_guidance.pdf itself contains links to the .com site.

Quote from: Phil Harvey on April 10, 2019, 07:07:05 AM
But the .org site site is down now.  I haven't heard that they have dissolved, so I'm hoping it is just a temporary outage.

If I'm not mistaken, it's been that way for weeks at least.

Oliver
Title: Re: metadataworkinggroup dissolved?
Post by: Phil Harvey on April 10, 2019, 08:21:51 AM
It could be that .com was used, but I don't see any references to this in the most recent version of the documentation other than being used in the XMP namespace URI, which isn't meant to be a valid URL.

I have sent an email to one of the MWG group leaders to ask about the status.

- Phil
Title: Re: metadataworkinggroup dissolved?
Post by: Phil Harvey on April 10, 2019, 08:29:05 AM
Ooops.  The mail bounced.  The person is no longer with Adobe.

Hence is the fate of most of my contacts at Adobe.  There seems to be a very high employee turnover rate there. :(

I'll try emailing another one.

- Phil
Title: Re: metadataworkinggroup dissolved?
Post by: obetz on April 10, 2019, 10:11:22 AM
Quote from: Phil Harvey on April 10, 2019, 08:21:51 AM
It could be that .com was used, but I don't see any references to this in the most recent version of the documentation other than being used in the XMP namespace URI, which isn't meant to be a valid URL.

Correct, I didn't look at this thoroughly. Other sites (Adobe, IPTC, Wikipedia) link to the .com domain, the DNS yields the same IP address for both sites.

In the mean I found https://photometadata.org/META-Resources-Metadata-Links-and-Resources-Guide telling us the MWG site being "offline after September 2018".

That's a loss. MWG may have screwed up some details, but overall they provided a good basis for dealing with metadata.

Oliver
Title: Re: metadataworkinggroup dissolved?
Post by: Phil Harvey on April 10, 2019, 10:16:00 AM
It seems really short sighted to me if they developed a standard in 2010 only to abandon it 8 years later.

- Phil
Title: Re: metadataworkinggroup dissolved?
Post by: StarGeek on April 10, 2019, 12:15:43 PM
Checking the Whois on metadataworkinggroup.com, the record shows an update on March 25.  The domain reg is set to expire in June.
Title: Re: metadataworkinggroup dissolved?
Post by: Phil Harvey on April 11, 2019, 07:07:17 AM
OK.  The MWG is still alive.  I got this message back:

QuoteThe MWG work is ongoing and still holds copyright and IP related to the MWG spec and technologies.

The public website is down for now, but we hope to have it back up soon.

- Phil
Title: Re: metadataworkinggroup dissolved?
Post by: obetz on April 12, 2019, 06:11:03 AM
Many thanks for checking and reporting, Phil!