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General => Metadata => Topic started by: Maxver on May 22, 2020, 09:49:03 AM

Title: Metadata in m4a format files
Post by: Maxver on May 22, 2020, 09:49:03 AM
Greetings!

I am using exiftool v11.99 on windows 7.
There are m4a files on the Internet where there is the line "Real-time streaming protocol", in metadata.
How can I delete this line via exiftool?

In these files also, if we look at the information through the mediainfo, we will find two additional sections: "Other #1 with  Type: Object description" and "Other #2 with Type: Scene description".
How delete sections: "Other #1" and "Other #2"  via exiftool?
Title: Re: Metadata in m4a format files
Post by: StarGeek on May 22, 2020, 12:23:37 PM
First, find the names of the tags by running
exiftool -s /path/to/files/

After you find the names of the tags you want to delete, run this, replacing TAG* with the names of the tags
exiftool -TAG= -TAG1= -TAG2= /path/to/files/

But take note that this data may be custom tags which exiftool doesn't have a definition for, so it may not be able to delete them.  In that case, you'll probably have to turn to ffmpeg.  In that case, see this answer (https://askubuntu.com/a/195346/445931).  While that talks about converting from MKV to M4V, the process is the same.
Title: Re: Metadata in m4a format files
Post by: Maxver on May 25, 2020, 07:53:21 AM
Thank you for responding.
I tried exiftool -s / path / to / files / and did not see the tag information.
I did this: exiftool input.m4a
to see all the metadata file information. I am attaching an example metadata list:

File Type                       : MP4
File Type Extension             : mp4
MIME Type                       : video/mp4
Major Brand                     : MP4 v2 [ISO 14496-14]
Minor Version                   : 0.0.0
Compatible Brands               : mp42, isom
Movie Header Version            : 0
Create Date                     : 2019:03:15 11:08:30
Modify Date                     : 2019:03:15 11:13:50
Time Scale                      : 48000
Duration                        : 2:01:02
Preferred Rate                  : 1
Preferred Volume                : 100.00%
Preview Time                    : 0 s
Preview Duration                : 0 s
Poster Time                     : 0 s
Selection Time                  : 0 s
Selection Duration              : 0 s
Current Time                    : 0 s
Next Track ID                   : 4
Track Header Version            : 0
Track Create Date               : 2019:03:15 11:08:30
Track Modify Date               : 2019:03:15 11:13:50
Track ID                        : 1
Track Duration                  : 2:01:02
Track Layer                     : 0
Track Volume                    : 100.00%
Balance                         : 0
Audio Format                    : mp4a
Audio Channels                  : 2
Audio Bits Per Sample           : 16
Audio Sample Rate               : 48000
Handler Vendor ID               : Apple
iTunSMPB                        : 0 640 1C0 151F0800 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Encoder                         : fhgaac ;VBR=6
Realtime Streaming Protocol     : (SDP) a=isma-compliance:1,1.0,1..a=mpeg4-iod: "data:application/mpeg4-iod;ba
se64,AoCAghMAT///D///A4CAgSQAAkCAZGF0YTphcHBsaWNhdGlvbi9tcGVnNC1vZC1hdTtiYXNlNjQsQVlDQWdEOEJnSUNBT2dLZkE0Q0FnR
E1BQVFBRWdJQ0FGa0FWQUFsbkFBclVZQUFIWjBrRmdJQ0FCQkd3N1VBR2dJQ0FFQUJFQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBTT0EgICADQEFAABEAAA
AAAAAAAAGgICACQEAAAAAAAAAAAOAgIBeAANAMmRhdGE6YXBwbGljYXRpb24vbXBlZzQtYmlmcy1hdTtiYXNlNjQsd0JBU2dUQXFCVzNBBICAg
BUCDQAACQAAAAAAAAAABYCAgAMAAGAGgICACQEAAAAAAAAAAA=="..
Elementary Stream Track         : 3
Matrix Structure                : 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1
Media Header Version            : 0
Media Create Date               : 2019:03:15 11:13:50
Media Modify Date               : 2019:03:15 11:13:50
Media Time Scale                : 1000
Media Duration                  : 2:01:02
Handler Type                    : Scene Description
Other Format                    : mp4s
Media Data Size                 : 28
Media Data Offset               : 449154431
Avg Bitrate                     : 485 kbps

There is a line with the name: "Realtime Streaming Protocol :" What is the name of the tag for this line?
I tried the command: exiftool -all = input.m4a. The command works, but does not delete the line "Real-time streaming protocol:"


If we open the file through media information, we see information about the stream "Audio # 1" with "ID : 1", and below we see two additional sections of information: "Other # 1" and "Other # 2". Here is an example:

Other #1
ID                             : 2
Type                           : Object description
Format                         : System
Codec ID                       : mp4s-01
Duration                       : 2 h 1 min
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2019-03-15 11:13:50
Tagged date                    : UTC 2019-03-15 11:13:50

Other #2
ID                             : 3
Type                           : Scene description
Format                         : System Core
Codec ID                       : mp4s-02
Duration                       : 2 h 1 min
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2019-03-15 11:13:50
Tagged date                    : UTC 2019-03-15 11:13:50

What is the name of this tags: "Other # 1" and "Other # 2" ?
Title: Re: Metadata in m4a format files
Post by: Phil Harvey on May 25, 2020, 09:31:29 AM
Quote from: Maxver on May 25, 2020, 07:53:21 AM
There is a line with the name: "Realtime Streaming Protocol :" What is the name of the tag for this line?

Use the -s option to see the tag name.

But RealtimeStreamingProtocol is not currently writable (see the QuickTime tags documentation (https://exiftool.org/TagNames/QuickTime.html#HintInfo)).

- Phil
Title: Re: Metadata in m4a format files
Post by: Maxver on May 25, 2020, 11:28:32 AM
Quote from: Phil Harvey on May 25, 2020, 09:31:29 AM

But RealtimeStreamingProtocol is not currently writable (see the QuickTime tags documentation (https://exiftool.org/TagNames/QuickTime.html#HintInfo)).

Thanks for the link
That's right, there says it's not for the Writable.
I understand what the matter is. An example metadata file that I attached was created by another console encoder: "FhG AAC Encoder". This feature this encoder.

In the table "Realtime streaming protocol"  identifity with Tag ID: 'rtp'

Exiftool understands this tag: 'rtp' ?


Also i find in table ['sdsm' = Scene Description] and ['odsm' = Object Descriptor] from section "QuickTime Handler Tags" .
Tag Name : "HandlerType" identify "Index1: 8"

Exiftool currently understands "QuickTime Handler Tags"?
Title: Re: Metadata in m4a format files
Post by: Phil Harvey on May 25, 2020, 12:17:48 PM
The link I posted lists all of the QuickTime tags that ExifTool understands.

- Phil
Title: Re: Metadata in m4a format files
Post by: Maxver on May 25, 2020, 01:08:36 PM
I tried like this:
exiftool -TAG= "'-rtp'="  /path/to/file/
and received "Warning: Tag 'TAG' is not defined"

I don't understand where the mistake was made.
Please tell, how to write the 'rtp' removal tag correctly
Title: Re: Metadata in m4a format files
Post by: StarGeek on May 25, 2020, 01:23:14 PM
Quote from: Phil Harvey on May 25, 2020, 09:31:29 AM
But RealtimeStreamingProtocol is not currently writable (see the QuickTime tags documentation (https://exiftool.org/TagNames/QuickTime.html#HintInfo)).

This means exiftool cannot edit/delete this tag.  You'll have to look into some other software to remove it.  Possibly ffmpeg.
Title: Re: Metadata in m4a format files
Post by: Maxver on May 25, 2020, 01:35:09 PM
Quote from: StarGeek on May 25, 2020, 01:23:14 PM
This means exiftool cannot edit/delete this tag.  You'll have to look into some other software to remove it.  Possibly ffmpeg.
I don't like how ffmpeg deletes metadata in m4a files. It automatically changes the flag to other parameters.
For example, parameter: bitrate! If the bitrate was "Variable", then after ffmpeg delete metadata, it will be displayed as "Constant".
This is wrong behavior.
The second reason - ffmpeg do it slower.

Please add the ability to remove these three tags in a next build of the exiftool.
Title: Re: Metadata in m4a format files
Post by: StarGeek on May 25, 2020, 02:58:19 PM
Don't recompress, just remux.  It will take the same amount of time as if you copied it.
ffmpeg -i Input.mp4 -map 0 -map_metadata -1 -c copy Output.mp4
-c copy tells ffmpeg to copy streams, not recompress
-map 0 tells it to copy all streams, not just the first one.  Useful in case there is more than one audio/subtitle stream
-map_metadata -1 removes all metadata

From this SuperUser answer (https://superuser.com/a/1189314/314998)
Title: Re: Metadata in m4a format files
Post by: Maxver on May 25, 2020, 03:33:14 PM
Thanks for the answer.
I tried this option like this:
ffmpeg -i input.m4a -map_metadata -1 -c copy Output.m4a
This command is working.
But there is one drawback: after this operation in mediainfo we see "Bitrate mode: Constant".
But it should be like this: "Bitrate mode: Variable", because in the source file it was: Variable.
I noticed that this happens all the time when using ffmpeg with the key "-map_metadata -1" to delete metadata in single m4a files.

If we use the exiftool to delete / edit tags in single m4a files, the line "Bitrate mode: Variable" always remains unchanged. As it should be.

I would like to be able to delete the metadata through the Exiftool. She is better at this task. 8)
Please add new three tags in the next build.