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Started by Beholder3, June 28, 2016, 10:52:57 AM

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Beholder3

Hi,

1)
for the Pentax K-3II you already had decoded the AF Hold setting tag. Now on the K-1 that seems gone.

2)
Same with the sensor temperature tag

3)
AF Point Selected for the K-1 seems unknown

4)
Some other new settings like skin color or sharpness might be available somwhere

Can I help understanding those?

Phil Harvey

The AFPointSelected will be decoded for the K-1 in the next release.

Any other settings that you want to know, try doing -exiftool -a -u -G1 FILE and comparing the outputs to see if you can figure out where the information is stored.  For things stored in the binary data blocks it may be harder to figure out where they are.

- Phil
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux/PowerShell, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

Beholder3

Could it be that the K-1 sensor temperature is in

[Pentax]        Pentax 0x0244                   :
[Pentax]        Pentax 0x0245                   : .!@
[Pentax]        Pentax Unknown Info 0x0000      : 1
[Pentax]        Pentax Unknown Info 0x0001      : 0
[Pentax]        Pentax Unknown Info 0x0002      : 0
[Pentax]        Pentax Unknown Info 0x0003      : 0
[Pentax]        Pentax Unknown Info 0x0004      : 0

or the following?

In the K-3II it was coded closely following the pixelshift info data.


Phil Harvey

Thanks for the hint.  I'll take a look when I get a chance.

- Phil
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux/PowerShell, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

Beholder3

I fear even in v10.21 the Pentax K-1 "AF Point Selected" tag needs some work.

AF.S/Spot --> Fixed Center; 0
AF.S/Auto 33 --> Auto; 0
AF.S/Auto 9 --> Unknown (273); 0
AF.S/Select-1 (center chosen) --> Unknown (17); 0
AF.S/Select-1 (top row leftmost chosen) --> Upper left; 0
AF.S/Select-1 (lowest row, rightmost chosen) --> Unknown (33); 0

I suggest calling the individual AF points just with their number and a leading hash symbol, e.g.
AF.S/Select-1 (top row leftmost chosen) --> AF.S/Select-1 (#1)
because with so many points a text explanation is not better anymore.

AF.C/Spot --> Fixed Center;0
AF.C/Auto 33 --> Auto; 0
AF.C/Auto 9 --> Unknown (273); 0
AF.C/Select 1 (around center chosen) --> Unknown (17); 0      (first byte seems to give chosen point, second byte number of select)
AF.C/Select 9 (around center chosen) --> Unknown (17); 1
AF.C/Select 25 (around center chosen) --> Unknown (17); 3
AF.C/Select 33 (around center chosen) --> Unknown (17); 5

I do suggest a better naming scheme to correspond more to what the camera calls it.

Phil Harvey

Quote from: Beholder3 on July 07, 2016, 02:55:19 AM
I fear even in v10.21 the Pentax K-1 "AF Point Selected" tag needs some work.

AF.S/Spot --> Fixed Center; 0
AF.S/Auto 33 --> Auto; 0
AF.S/Auto 9 --> Unknown (273); 0
AF.S/Select-1 (center chosen) --> Unknown (17); 0
AF.S/Select-1 (top row leftmost chosen) --> Upper left; 0
AF.S/Select-1 (lowest row, rightmost chosen) --> Unknown (33); 0

I don't know what is going on here because version 10.21 should give "Bottom-right" for AFPointSelected (0x000e), and 17 should be "Center".

QuoteI suggest calling the individual AF points just with their number and a leading hash symbol, e.g.
AF.S/Select-1 (top row leftmost chosen) --> AF.S/Select-1 (#1)
because with so many points a text explanation is not better anymore.

Maybe you're right.  For Nikon we use a row-column designation, but with Pentax the grid isn't as rectangular.

QuoteAF.C/Spot --> Fixed Center;0
AF.C/Auto 33 --> Auto; 0
AF.C/Auto 9 --> Unknown (273); 0
AF.C/Select 1 (around center chosen) --> Unknown (17); 0      (first byte seems to give chosen point, second byte number of select)
AF.C/Select 9 (around center chosen) --> Unknown (17); 1
AF.C/Select 25 (around center chosen) --> Unknown (17); 3
AF.C/Select 33 (around center chosen) --> Unknown (17); 5

I do suggest a better naming scheme to correspond more to what the camera calls it.

But the value of this tag doesn't differentiate between AF.C and AF.S.

- Phil
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Beholder3

Quote from: Phil Harvey on July 07, 2016, 07:19:32 AM
But the value of this tag doesn't differentiate between AF.C and AF.S.

I was more referring to "Auto;0" to be named Auto-33 and the Select ones explicitly named "Select-", where they currently are not named at all with trailing ",x".
Also I would drop the ";0" from the "fixed center" and maybe rename it to "spot" what the camera UI says.

Phil Harvey

Version 20.21 should not give "; 0".  It should be "; Single Point".  Are you sure you are running 10.21?

- Phil
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux/PowerShell, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

jörgens.mi

I checked it with the version 10.21 downloaded today from your website: windows version exiftool(-k).exe 7.222.352 Bytes 29.06.16 09:40.  nothing changed to 10.20
Results:
======== Pk1_4306.jpg
ExifTool Version Number         : 10.21
File Name                       : Pk1_4306.jpg
File Modification Date/Time     : 2016:07:07 16:54:55+02:00
MIME Type                       : image/jpeg
Make                            : RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD.
Camera Model Name               : PENTAX K-1
Software                        : PENTAX K-1 Ver. 1.10
Artist                          : Joergens.mi
Flash Mode                      : Off, Did not fire; Internal
Focus Mode                      : AF-C (Focus-priority)
AF Point Selected               : Unknown (13); 0
ISO                             : 125
AE Lock                         : Off
AF Adjustment                   : 0


If there is a need, I can send you a picture

Phil Harvey

We have a problem.  Try running "exiftool -ver" to be sure the correct version of the library is being used.  (You could get the above output if running application version 10.21 with the 10.20 libraries, but the -ver option checks the library version too.)

And send me a sample if you want too (philharvey66 at gmail.com).

- Phil
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux/PowerShell, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

Phil Harvey

Ah.  Seems the Windows package wasn't updated properly.  I'll work on this.

- Phil
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux/PowerShell, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

Phil Harvey

Sorry about that.  Somehow the most recent updates didn't make it into the Windows version of 10.21.

I've just released 10.22, which should fix this.

- Phil
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux/PowerShell, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

jörgens.mi

Seems to work now

======== IMGP2519.jpeg
ExifTool Version Number         : 10.22
File Name                       : IMGP2519.jpeg
Focus Mode                      : AF-C (Focus-priority)
AF Point Selected               : Center; Single Point


Thanks