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gongi

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String conversion of metadata
« on: March 30, 2010, 09:20:51 AM »
Hi all,
I use exiftool to extract custom XMP metadata from different type of image, layout,sound and video.
I use exiftool 8.10 with a custom config file.
I have a string metadata value set to "284/09"; when I extract this with exiftool I obtain a numeric value: the numeric result of 284/09 and not the string!

Anybody can help me?

My custom config file is:

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%Image::ExifTool::UserDefined::xxx = (
    GROUPS => { 0 => 'XMP', 1 => 'XMP-xmp_prefix', 2 => 'Image' },
    NAMESPACE => { 'xmp-prefix' => 'http://ns.gongi.com/1.0/' },
    WRITABLE => 'string',
    # replace "NewXMPxxxTag1" with your own tag name (ie. "MyTag")
    Leaflet => { },
);

and the result of:
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exiftool  -ext indd -ext mp3 -ext avi -ext mov -ext aiff -all:all -b -o %d%f.%e.xmp my_folder-r
is:

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<xmp_prefix:Leaflet>31.5555555555556</xmp_prefix:Leaflet>

Hi

--Alessandro




« Last Edit: March 30, 2010, 09:55:04 AM by gongi »

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Re: String conversion of metadata
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 09:42:35 AM »
Hi Alessandro,

ExifTool will read back your new tag as '284/09' if the tag is defined in the config file and doesn't have Writable set to 'rational'.  Rational types are converted to a decimal value when extracting.

However, if you read back any XMP tag which isn't previously defined, exiftool will assume it is a rational type if it looks like a rational value.  So it seems that your config file must not be active when you are reading back the value because exiftool is treating your new tag as a rational.

I hope this makes sense.

- Phil
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

gongi

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Re: String conversion of metadata
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 10:00:00 AM »
Hi Phil,
thank you for the quick response.
if I understand, you're telling me that config file is not used in my extraction.
For this purpose, I have appended in the config file, just before end:

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print "LOADED version 3!\n";
1;  #end

to see if config file is loaded.
When I run exiftool, I see this message on screen, so I suppose config file is loaded.
Unless I'm wrong....


Thanks a lot,

--Alessandro

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Re: String conversion of metadata
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 10:14:47 AM »
Hi Alessandro,

It seems we have a bit of a mystery on our hands.  With ExifTool 8.16 and the sample .ExifTool_config file installed, I get this behaviour:

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> exiftool a.jpg -newxmpxxxtag1=284/09
    1 image files updated

> exiftool a.jpg -newxmpxxxtag1
New XM Pxxx Tag 1               : 284/09

Can you try this to see what you get?  If you don't get the above results, then the only explanation I could imagine is that you are using a version of exiftool older than 6.87.
 
- Phil
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

gongi

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Re: String conversion of metadata
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 10:45:08 AM »
Hi Phil,
it seems a mistery, right.
I did a few tests with the last production build, 8.15.
My custom xmp tag is, as you seen, Numero_Busta_Imp and I test it for indd and jpg files:

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exiftool G09SS10_02AMp284_09.indd -Numero_Busta_Imp=284/09
LOADED version 3!
    1 image files updated

exiftool G09SS10_02AMp284_09.indd -Numero_Busta_Imp
LOADED version 3!
Numero Busta Imp                : 31.5555555555556

exiftool G09SS10_02AMp284_09.indd -n -Numero_Busta_Imp
LOADED version 3!
Numero Busta Imp                : 31.5555555555556

exiftool a.jpg -Numero_Busta_Imp=284/09
LOADED version 3!
    1 image files updated

exiftool a.jpg -Numero_Busta_Imp
LOADED version 3!
Numero Busta Imp                : 31.5555555555556

I try to see this metadata with Adobe Bridge and I confirm you that the value is setted to 284/09.
So, I suppose the extraction process is the problem.
I confirm you that I'm using 8.15 and a Windows XP PC.

Thanks,

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Re: String conversion of metadata
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2010, 11:48:54 AM »
Could you test with the sample config file from the distribution and the NewXMPxxxTag1 tag?  I want to rule out any differences with the config file you are using.

- Phil
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

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Re: String conversion of metadata
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 12:09:48 PM »
Hi Phil,
i test with the sample file and it works:

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exiftool a.jpg -newxmpxxxtag1
LOADED original version !

exiftool a.jpg -newxmpxxxtag1=284/09
LOADED original version !
    1 image files updated

exiftool a.jpg -newxmpxxxtag1
LOADED original version !
New XM Pxxx Tag 1               : 284/09

exiftool G09SS10_02AMp284_09.indd -newxmpxxxtag1=284/09
LOADED original version !
    1 image files updated

exiftool G09SS10_02AMp284_09.indd -newxmpxxxtag1
LOADED original version !
New XM Pxxx Tag 1               : 284/09


I don't understand this...it's strange...
Here my config:

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# This is a basic example of the definition for a new XMP namespace.
# This table is referenced through a SubDirectory tag definition
# in the %Image::ExifTool::UserDefined definition above.
# The namespace prefix for these tags is 'xxx', which corresponds to
# an ExifTool family 1 group name of 'XMP-xxx'.
%Image::ExifTool::UserDefined::xxx = (
    GROUPS => { 0 => 'XMP', 1 => 'XMP-archiviazione', 2 => 'Image' },
    NAMESPACE => { 'archiviazione' => 'http://ns.gongi.com/1.0/' },
    WRITABLE => 'string',
    # replace "NewXMPxxxTag1" with your own tag name (ie. "MyTag")
   Numero_Busta_Imp => { },
 # XMP structures are defined as SubDirectory's
    NewXMPxxxStruct => {
        SubDirectory => { },
        Struct => 'MyStruct', # arbitrary name identifies entry in xmpStruct
        List => 'Seq',        # structures may also be elements of a list
    },
    # structure elements must be defined as separate tags.  The tag ID's
    # are the concatination of the structure tag ID with the ID of each
    # structure element in turn.  The list flag should be set if the
    # parent structure is contained in a list.
    NewXMPxxxStructX => { List => 1 },
    NewXMPxxxStructY => { List => 1 },
);


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Re: String conversion of metadata
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 12:37:03 PM »
Darn, I should have suggested using the -a -G1 options earlier (when extracting). :(

Your problem is that you have written your new tag under two different XMP namespaces, and you are only seeing the one that you aren't changing.

- Phil

[edit] No, wait.  Maybe there is another reason.  I have reproduced your problem and am currently investigating.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2010, 12:47:41 PM by Phil Harvey »
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

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Re: String conversion of metadata
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2010, 12:57:14 PM »
OK.  The problem can happen if the user-defined XMP namespace is not defined properly.  I am guessing that you didn't change the 'xxx' to 'archiviazione' in the 'Image::ExifTool::XMP::Main' table.  You didn't give me all of your config file, and the missing part should look like this:

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%Image::ExifTool::UserDefined = (
    'Image::ExifTool::XMP::Main' => {
        archiviazione => {
            SubDirectory => {
                TagTable => 'Image::ExifTool::UserDefined::xxx',
            },
        },
    },
);

Note that the key for your new namespace must be the same as the namespace name.

- Phil
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

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Re: String conversion of metadata
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2010, 04:22:49 AM »
Wow, Phil, now it's works.
It was like you've supposed..I didn't change all the config file.
I changed it like your suggestion, and now it's ok.

Thanks a lot!

--Alessandro