Why do appear different programs.

[dgsjsj]

Photos were processed, although the author argues that this intrachamber jpg from the camera SONY NEX-5N.
Different programs give different information about the applicable software.
ZonerPhoto Studio shows that the Software Aperture 3.2.3
ExifToolGUI to ExifTool 8.88 shows that used Adobe Photoshop CS5 Macintosh

In which of the tag information is written is true?
And why is the map used by different programs.

[BogdanH]

Hi,

In this case, ExifToolGUI is clear about that: value "Adobe Photoshop CS5 Macintosh" is saved into Software tag, which is specified for IFD0 group of metadata -which is within Exif/TIFF specification.

I don't know Russian language, but from what I can see, ZonerPhoto Studio doesn't tell where value "Aperture 3.2.3" is saved. But you can find that by yourself, if you choose ALL in ExifToolGUI and search for "Aperture 3.2.3" value.

Anyway, this photo can't be directly from camera.

Bogdan

[dgsjsj]

Bogdan, Thanks for the clarification.

[pb]

Bogdan, you must be even younger than I thought -- surely everyone in Yugoslavia was forced to study Russian before glasnost?  Or maybe Tito hated Stalin too much?

[dgsjsj]

Hi BogdanH, Hi pb
I do not think it's about knowing the Russian language.
And the developers ZonerPhoto Studio mostly Czechs as it is in a special way he is treated.
http://free.zoner.com/about.asp
http://www.zoner.com/ww-en/about-zoner

Perhaps you should consult with Phil?



http://www.flickr.com/photos/71765426@N08/6925338840/meta/in/photostream/

It seems to me, too, points to the Flicker Aperture 3.2.3

[pb]

I downloaded the largest size that flickr allows, and most of the metadata is stripped out of that version.

If you upload the actual pic you are concerned about to someplace from which it can be downloaded unchanged, then others could take a look at the metadata.  I note that this forum lets you attach files up to about 10MB, so you might even be able to just upload it directly to the forum if it's small enough.  In fact from the Russian, it appears the file is only 1.3MB, so that would be the easiest way.

--peter

[dgsjsj]

Hi Peter.
1. I am not the owner or the author discussed the picture.Original is not available to me.
2. Flicker free account allows you to place only 200 images no larger than 1024 x 768
3. I do not care for what reasons the author of the picture says that the picture is not converted to the format of the ARW is a intrachamber JPG. (Out of camera; no post processing)
4. Enough to know that the picture was subjected to treatment and to know exactly what software is used at the same time.
5. Do not rule out that the author used the Aperture 3.2.3 just to change the image resolution in JPG
6. Two sources indicate the use of the Software Aperture 3.2.3
I was just wondering why I respected the program does not confirm this fact?

[BogdanH]

Hi dgsjsj,

Without having a file, nobody can say what metadata tags are in this file. As said, if something is saved in IFD0:Software tag, then ExifTool will show what's there. And if something is saved elsewhere (i.e. in Xmp-tiff:Software), then ExifTool will show that too. Why there are two different values, only image author can tell.

Bogdan

[dgsjsj]

Bogdan, thanks again for your prompt response.
I hope I understood correctly.

[dgsjsj]

The answer of the owner shot.
http://club.foto.ru/forum/44/609037,61#p7765766
При подключению камеры к маку, фотки автоматом закачиваются в апертуру, а от туда экспорт куда угодно- хоть сюда, хоть во фликр. Ну и в эксифе автоматом прописывается апертура. Как то так.

When connecting the camera to the Mack, photos automatically downloaded into the aperture, and from there exported anywhere, even here, at least in the Flickr. Well, in the prescribed eksife automatic aperture. Something like this.

[BogdanH]

Hi,

Yes, now it's clear. Many users use some software to "download" files from camera (to create photo albums, or similar). In such case, it is hard to tell if actual image is changed when file is transferred to PC or Mac.
To be 100% sure, that image/file is not changed, then one should copy files directly from memory card (via card reader).

Bogdan

PS: to answer pb's curiosity  :
former Yugoslavia was a federation of republics, where Slovenia was one of them. And because Slovenia's neighbours are Austria and Italy, it was normal, that we learned mostly german/italian and english in Slovenian schools. On the other side, in south/eastern republics, mostly english and russian language was learned.

[dgsjsj]

Hi
Many of the identified programs pick up the machine and card readers. But I understand the meaning of your answer.
If by chance among his colleagues on the forum will be the owners of Sony NEX cameras using Aperture 3.2.3 converter will be interesting to see the reaction on ExifTool GUI processed. ARW