How to tell if same device was used for different images

Started by frankytanky87, January 11, 2024, 02:06:17 PM

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frankytanky87

What in this data can definitively tell me if the same camera was used for these photos? Or what can I add to my commands to find out. Any help would be awesome. Thanks so much.

Image 1
./exiftool.exe -make -model -b -v           
  ExifToolVersion = 12.73
  FileName = hupnot.jpg
  FileSize = 134098
  ZoneIdentifier = Exists
  FileModifyDate = 1704996353.32652
  FileAccessDate = 1704998896.33739
  FileCreateDate = 1704996352.5997
  FilePermissions = 33206
  FileType = JPEG
  FileTypeExtension = JPG
  MIMEType = image/jpeg
JPEG APP0 (14 bytes):
  + [BinaryData directory, 9 bytes]
  | JFIFVersion = 1 1
  | ResolutionUnit = 0
  | XResolution = 1
  | YResolution = 1
  | ThumbnailWidth = 0
  | ThumbnailHeight = 0
JPEG APP1 (64 bytes):
  ExifByteOrder = MM
  + [IFD0 directory with 1 entries]
  | 0)  ImageDescription =
JPEG APP2 (470 bytes):
  ICC_Profile chunk 1 of 1
  + [ICC_Profile directory with 9 entries, 456 bytes]
  | ProfileHeader (SubDirectory) -->
  | + [BinaryData directory, 128 bytes]
  | | ProfileCMMType = lcms
  | | ProfileVersion = 528
  | | ProfileClass = mntr
  | | ColorSpaceData = RGB
  | | ProfileConnectionSpace = XYZ
  | | ProfileDateTime = 2018 3 20 9 14 29
  | | ProfileFileSignature = acsp
  | | PrimaryPlatform = MSFT
  | | CMMFlags = 0
  | | DeviceManufacturer = saws
  | | DeviceModel = ctrl
  | | DeviceAttributes = 0 0
  | | RenderingIntent = 0
  | | ConnectionSpaceIlluminant = 0.9642 1 0.82491
  | | ProfileCreator = hand
  | | ProfileID = 157 145 0 61 64 128 176 61 64 116 44 129 158 165 34 142
  | 0)  ProfileDescription = uRGB
  | 1)  ProfileCopyright = CC0
  | 2)  MediaWhitePoint = 0.9505 1 1.089
  | 3)  RedMatrixColumn = 0.43604 0.22244 0.0139
  | 4)  GreenMatrixColumn = 0.3851 0.71693 0.09708
  | 5)  BlueMatrixColumn = 0.14307 0.06062 0.71393
  | 6)  RedTRC = curv*|....u.....N.....b.......j.. C$.)j.~3.9.?.FWM6Tv\.d.l.uV~..,.6...[snip]
  | 7)  GreenTRC = curv*|....u.....N.....b.......j.. C$.)j.~3.9.?.FWM6Tv\.d.l.uV~..,.6.[snip]
  | 8)  BlueTRC = curv*|....u.....N.....b.......j.. C$.)j.~3.9.?.FWM6Tv\.d.l.uV~..,.6..[snip]
JPEG DQT (65 bytes):
JPEG DQT (65 bytes):
JPEG SOF0 (15 bytes):
  ImageWidth = 1536
  ImageHeight = 2048
  EncodingProcess = 0
  BitsPerSample = 8
  ColorComponents = 3
  YCbCrSubSampling = 2 2
JPEG DHT (29 bytes):
JPEG DHT (179 bytes):
JPEG DHT (29 bytes):
JPEG DHT (179 bytes):
JPEG SOS

Image 2

ExifTool Version Number        : 12.73
File Name                      : compare.jpeg.jpg
Directory                      : c:/Users/Drink/OneDrive/Desktop
File Size                      : 62 kB
File Modification Date/Time    : 2024:01:10 22:06:00-06:00
File Access Date/Time          : 2024:01:11 12:43:24-06:00
File Creation Date/Time        : 2024:01:11 02:21:25-06:00
File Permissions                : -rw-rw-rw-
File Type                      : JPEG
File Type Extension            : jpg
MIME Type                      : image/jpeg
JFIF Version                    : 1.01
Resolution Unit                : None
X Resolution                    : 1
Y Resolution                    : 1
Profile CMM Type                : Little CMS
Profile Version                : 2.1.0
Profile Class                  : Display Device Profile
Color Space Data                : RGB
Profile Connection Space        : XYZ
Profile Date Time              : 2018:03:20 09:14:29
Profile File Signature          : acsp
Primary Platform                : Microsoft Corporation
CMM Flags                      : Not Embedded, Independent
Device Manufacturer            : Unknown (saws)
Device Model                    : ctrl
Device Attributes              : Reflective, Glossy, Positive, Color
Rendering Intent                : Perceptual
Connection Space Illuminant    : 0.9642 1 0.82491
Profile ID                      : 9d91003d4080b03d40742c819ea5228e
Profile Description            : uRGB
Profile Copyright              : CC0
Red Matrix Column              : 0.43604 0.22244 0.0139
Green Matrix Column            : 0.3851 0.71693 0.09708
Blue Matrix Column              : 0.14307 0.06062 0.71393
Red Tone Reproduction Curve    : (Binary data 96 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Green Tone Reproduction Curve  : (Binary data 96 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Blue Tone Reproduction Curve    : (Binary data 96 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Image Width                    : 1536
Image Height                    : 2048
Encoding Process                : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Color Components                : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling            : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)
Image Size                      : 1536x2048
Megapixels                      : 3.1

Phil Harvey

Those images contain very little metadata.  The ICC_Profile tags aren't going to help you here.

Maybe the best you can do here is to look at the JpegDigest (this tag must be requested specifically), but that won't narrow things down too much.

- Phil
...where DIR is the name of a directory/folder containing the images.  On Mac/Linux/PowerShell, use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") around arguments containing a dollar sign ($).

StarGeek

Quote from: frankytanky87 on January 11, 2024, 02:06:17 PMWhat in this data can definitively tell me if the same camera was used for these photos? Or what can I add to my commands to find out. Any help would be awesome. Thanks so much.

Directly from the camera, there should be Make and Model and probably a serial number tag (actual name can be dependent upon the camera).

Any such data can easily be changed so the images "match".

Also, files that pass through any social media site have most metadata stripped away.
"It didn't work" isn't helpful. What was the exact command used and the output.
Read FAQ #3 and use that cmd
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