Adding separator to keywords for languages

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[Originally posted by infotalk on 2010-02-06 08:18:17.445036-08]

Hello!

Adding separator "|" to keywords for languages:

1. Example

The keyword list German/English alphabetic order now looks like this:

Altstadt, Architektur, aussen, architecture, exterior, old town

and should look like this with a separator:

Altstadt, Architektur, aussen, | architecture, exterior, old town

2. Example

The keyword list German/English alphabetic order now looks like this:

Altstadt, Backstein, brick, old town

and should look like this with a separator:

Altstadt, Backstein, | brick, old town

Thanks for the help in advance.

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[Originally posted by exiftool on 2010-02-06 12:35:52.469895-08]

To fix this with exiftool you could delete all of the
english keywords and write them back again with a "|"
added to the first keyword.

It may be possible to design a user-defined tag which
would allow you to automate this if a simple algorithm
like putting the "|" in front of the Nth/2 + 1 keyword
would work reliably.

- Phil

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[Originally posted by infotalk on 2010-02-08 10:46:35.950274-08]

Hi Phil,

Thanks for the answer. I am new to this. I have no idea how to generate a PIPE to separate the keywords German/English.

Could you give me an example PLEASE.

Thanks in advance.

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[Originally posted by exiftool on 2010-02-08 11:28:23.687093-08]

This config file defines a "MyKeywords" tag which
does what I described:

Code:

%Image::ExifTool::UserDefined = (
    'Image::ExifTool::Composite' => {
        MyKeywords => {
            Require => 'Keywords',
            ValueConv => q{
                my @v = ref $val ? @$val : $val;
                my $n = int(@v / 2);
                $v[$n] = "| $v[$n]";
                return \@v;
            },
        },
    },
);
1; # end

- Phil

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[Originally posted by infotalk on 2010-02-09 10:01:43.681052-08]

Code:

Hello Phil,  

It works.  

I have changed one row:
                my $n = int(@v / 2 - 2);  

%Image::ExifTool::UserDefined = (
    'Image::ExifTool::Composite' => {
         MyKeywordsPipe => {
          Require => 'IPTC:Keywords',
            ValueConv => q{
                my @v = ref $val ? @$val : $val;
                my $n = int(@v / 2 - 2);
                $v[$n] = "| $v[$n]";
                return \@v;
          },
        },
         MySubjectPipe => {
          Require => 'XMP:Subject',
            ValueConv => q{
                my @v = ref $val ? @$val : $val;
                my $n = int(@v / 2 - 2);
                $v[$n] = "| $v[$n]";
                return \@v;
          },
        },
      },
);
1; # end

IPTC and XMP show 1 pipe.  

One problem that I have, when I generate a text file
(exiftool -k -G1 -H -a -u -s -w txt *.jpg)
 I see that there are new tags:  

[Composite] - MyKeywordsPipe: Ziegelstein, Zierde, | | adornment, architecture
[Composite] - MySubjectPipe: Ziegelstein, Zierde, | | adornment, architecture  

Is there a way to delete these entries?  

Thank you very much!!!

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[Originally posted by exiftool on 2010-02-09 10:39:04.871247-08]

You have 3 options:

1) Load the user-defined tags only when copying the keywords,
(with -config FILE on the command line)

2) Disable the
user-defined tags with -config "" when extracting
the values afterwards.

3) Exclude specific tags when extracting
with --mykeywordspipe --mysubjectpipe

- Phil

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[Originally posted by infotalk on 2010-02-10 08:28:36.769156-08]

Code:

Hi Phil,

I have expressed myself imprecisely.

I want to delete the tags
[Composite] - MyKeywordsPipe:
[Composite] - MySubjectPipe:

Thanks for the help!

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[Originally posted by exiftool on 2010-02-10 08:42:52.548926-08]

I think we still have a misunderstanding.  Are you trying to delete the composite
tag value from the image, or just prevent it from being extracted?
I described techiques for preventing it from being extracted.
The value for the composite tag doesn't exist per se in the image
because composite tags are derived from the values of other tags,
so it can't be deleted as such.
The only way to effectively remove a composite tag from an image
is to deleted the tags from which it is derived.

- Phil

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[Originally posted by infotalk on 2010-02-10 12:47:03.976328-08]

Code:

"composite tags are derived from the values of other tags, so it can't be deleted as such"

OK

Phil, thank you very much for helping me.

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[Originally posted by infotalk on 2010-02-12 01:12:03.706936-08]

Code:

Hi Phil,

%Image::ExifTool::UserDefined = (
    'Image::ExifTool::Composite' => {
        MyKeywords => {
            Require => 'Keywords',
            ValueConv => q{
                my @v = ref $val ? @$val : $val;
                my $n = int(@v / 2);
                $v[$n] = "| $v[$n]";
                return \@v;
            },
        },
    },
);
1; # end

In above case there is 1 German keyword translated by 1 English keyword.

But I have several keywords with synonyms.
So it is possible that 1 German/English keyword is translated by 2 or more German/English keywords.

Is there a way to set the PIPE like this:

drehen, wirbeln | twirl

Einkauf | purchase, shopping

Thank you very much for giving me an example.

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[Originally posted by exiftool on 2010-02-12 04:44:47.173061-08]

If you can come up with an algorithm then I can code
it for you.  Short of looking up each keyword in German
and English dictionaries, how can the computer tell where
to put the "|" symbol?

- Phil