Feature Request: Expand ACDsee.config

Started by alessandroC, December 20, 2023, 08:30:19 AM

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alessandroC

Dear Team,
I greatly appreciate your work and a big fan of it.
I am one of the many ACDsee users in this forum and like many others figured it out too late ACDsee writes into non standard tags. I would love the possibility to migrate ACDSEE face regions (ideally also keywords) to standard  MWG.
The example in ACDsee.config converts from Standard to ACDsee, but not the opposite. I gave it a try myself, but unsuccessfully.
Happy to offer an ACDsee license to the group for testing or participate in the tests.

StarGeek

I think I started to write this, but don't think I took time to finish it.  Plus, I think there's a bug in the current version.  I'll see what I can do.

Gah... What a mess.  I have seven different ACDSee config files from various stages of coding. Yeah, I'm terrible at keeping track of projects.
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bigfire60

Would love to have this ability as well. It would be much easier if ACDSee simply provided an option to output in the industry standard.

StarGeek

"It didn't work" isn't helpful. What was the exact command used and the output.
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Neal Krawetz

Quote from: alessandroC on December 20, 2023, 08:30:19 AMI would love the possibility to migrate ACDSEE face regions (ideally also keywords) to standard  MWG.

I'm not an ACDSee user and I haven't looked into this. Can you provide a short example of these non-standard fields and what they mean?  I'd like to search my FotoForensics service and see if I have other examples, but I need to know what to search for.

StarGeek

Quote from: Neal Krawetz on March 03, 2024, 09:26:45 AMCan you provide a short example of these non-standard fields and what they mean?

See XMP-acdsee tags and Phil's commentary there.

There's also the XMP-acdsee-rs tags (see the ACDSee.config file) which are region structures that mirror the MWG regions almost exactly, except for some reason ACDSee needed to make two separate regions, RegionDLY and RegionALG.
"It didn't work" isn't helpful. What was the exact command used and the output.
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bigfire60

Hey StarGeek, does this imply that we might see a solution to this request in the near future?

StarGeek

Yes, I'm sorry but life got in the way and it slipped my mind.
"It didn't work" isn't helpful. What was the exact command used and the output.
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bigfire60


alessandroC

Much much appreciated. Let me know if any help in testing or license is needed.

bigfire60

StarGeek,

Just confirming that ACDSee regions aren't currently defined in the existing documentation?

https://exiftool.org/TagNames/XMP.html#acdsee


StarGeek

Yes.  The config file is needed to write ACDSee region data.  It can be read without it, but it not in a useful structure and won't include ACDSee in the tag names

For example, without config
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsAppliedToDimensionsH     : 683
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsAppliedToDimensionsUnit  : pixel
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsAppliedToDimensionsW     : 1024
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListDLYAreaH       : 0.194964
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListDLYAreaW       : 0.107262
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListDLYAreaX       : 0.291964
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListDLYAreaY       : 0.156188
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListALGAreaH       : 0.189286
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListALGAreaW       : 0.126190
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListALGAreaX       : 0.291964
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListALGAreaY       : 0.153348
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListName           : Austin Powers
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListType           : Face
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListNameAssignType : manual
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListDLYAreaH       : 0.190366
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListDLYAreaW       : 0.104732
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListDLYAreaX       : 0.588839
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListDLYAreaY       : 0.387371
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListALGAreaH       : 0.184821
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListALGAreaW       : 0.123214
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListALGAreaX       : 0.588839
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListALGAreaY       : 0.384598
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListName           : Jane Doe
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListType           : Face
[XMP-acdsee-rs] RegionsRegionListNameAssignType : manual
<snip more data>

and with
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionAppliedToDimensionsH: 683
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionAppliedToDimensionsUnit: pixel
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionAppliedToDimensionsW: 1024
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionDLYAreaH            : 0.194964, 0.190366, 0.194504, 0.207815, 0.261101
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionDLYAreaW            : 0.107262, 0.104732, 0.107009, 0.111308, 0.148017
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionDLYAreaX            : 0.291964, 0.588839, 0.418155, 0.500888, 0.744227
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionDLYAreaY            : 0.156188, 0.387371, 0.326493, 0.178508, 0.279751
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionALGAreaH            : 0.189286, 0.184821, 0.188839
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionALGAreaW            : 0.126190, 0.123214, 0.125893
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionALGAreaX            : 0.291964, 0.588839, 0.418155
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionALGAreaY            : 0.153348, 0.384598, 0.323661
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionName                : Austin Powers, Jane Doe, Mini Me, John Doe, Mike Miller
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionType                : Face, Face, Face, Face, Face
[XMP-acdsee-rs] ACDSeeRegionNameAssignType      : manual, manual, manual
"It didn't work" isn't helpful. What was the exact command used and the output.
Read FAQ #3 and use that cmd
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bigfire60

Very good, thanks.
Any update on support for implementation of ACDSee to MWG regions?

Phil Harvey

Can you post a sample of the ACDSee XMP with regions defined?  I can't find one easily.

- Phil
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